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racsirx
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I hate to tell you this but I think the LS1 will win, sorry.
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Originally posted by racsirx:
I hate to tell you this but I think the LS1 will win, sorry.
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ls1 will win
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How will the LS1 win? If any of you actually attended any races, I can pull up plenty of videos of a Bolt on + tune +Longtubes & Cutout+ slicks LS1 just barely winning a H/C 5.0. And the LS1 is a good driver.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yGpUDDw4Ng
The camaro put down 350 RWHP.
So the camaro your racing will put down near 300-310RWHP since a proven fact flowmasters limit camaros.
[ December 08, 2010, 01:12 AM: Message edited by: x42bnx ]
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hate to say but i think the ls1
regardless, good luck, ur gonna need it
[ December 08, 2010, 01:20 AM: Message edited by: 5LTR SVT ]
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if u can hook & drive then it wont b a proble 2 beat the maro, 4 sure wouldnt b 4 me
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Dude that 5.0 is not a 5.0 no way bro. It has to have a diff motor.
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No dyno numbers, no track numbers, no weight numbers... LS1 FTW! ![[Razz]](tongue.gif) ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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So let me get this straight.
Auto LS1 With 300 RWHP with a curb weight of 3400 LBS.
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5 SPD H/C/I 5.0 290 RWHP with curb weight of 3100 LB/s.
Sorry, 10 RWHP won't make him win you retards.
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Ey jae jae hit me upp we come film it for you bruh..
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Originally posted by x42bnx:
So let me get this straight.
Auto LS1 With 300 RWHP with a curb weight of 3400 LBS.
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5 SPD H/C/I 5.0 290 RWHP with curb weight of 3100 LB/s.
Sorry, 10 RWHP won't make him win you retards.
300? a bone stock ls1 dynos at 330rwhp. He is pushing about 345rwhp with the mods
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330 RWHP STOCK? LOL. Find me a pre 02 without LS6 intake that does that.
Also it was rated 325 BHP.
So -18% for being an auto gives you what?
345 RWHP? Thats an overestimation since my friends dynoed 350 with lid, intake, long tubes, cut outs, tune
Also let me direct you to actual LS1 Forum post on dyno numbers.
All of them say Auto 290-300 RWHP, so a guy with exhaust gets 305 RWHP.
http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1993
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Just Dyno'd my 2002 Z28. Completely Stock, to get a base line before adding any bolt ons.
297.68 rwhp 319.37 rwtq
Dyno stock at 300 RWHP.
The higher lines are full exhaust & lid.
[ December 08, 2010, 03:43 AM: Message edited by: x42bnx ]
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Sonic96GT
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Originally posted by x42bnx:
So let me get this straight.
Auto LS1 With 300 RWHP with a curb weight of 3400 LBS.
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5 SPD H/C/I 5.0 290 RWHP with curb weight of 3100 LB/s.
Sorry, 10 RWHP won't make him win you retards.
We do not know the OP's numbers. OP originally stated he has anywhere from 270-290rwhp. So you can not assume he has 290rwhp. Camaros have a lot of top end aswell. Like I said it'll be a good race. But odds are looking like the camaro. HCI will only get you passed stock to minor bolt on LS1's if that. An other LS1 with HCI requires boost. Blower/Turbo FTW.... Off subject... But I have a friend with just 410's and longtubes on his ls1 and has no problem beating stangs with about 300rwhp-330rwhp.
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[ December 08, 2010, 04:56 AM: Message edited by: Sonic96GT ]
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Woops DBL post.
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[ December 08, 2010, 10:56 AM: Message edited by: cali95gt ]
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Damn this posting has gotten crazy...well JaeJae I wish you the best of luck but to be honest it's not looking to sweet.. Just bring a camera and post up the footage...
For anyone on the SF/peninsula side of the bay who has a mustang with H/C/I and wants the same challenge, my boy has a stock LS1 auto other than Longtubes and gears and he will gladly put you ALL back in your place... Don't mistake me for a "LS" lover, I'm just a realist not a dreamer..
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I think a stock maro ls1 is rated 315 hp @ the flywheel, so to the rear should be under 300, but i could be wrong its been awhile...
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racsirx
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I have been to many races, and the LS1s seem to run low 13s and high 12s with a good driver. But GT40 heads making 290RWHP is hard to believe for me, shit I could barely push out 410RWHP with a 306, GT40 heads and a S-trim with 15lbs of boost with alot of timing and race gas.
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Originally posted by cali95gt:
Damn this posting has gotten crazy...well JaeJae I wish you the best of luck but to be honest it's not looking to sweet.. Just bring a camera and post up the footage...
For anyone on the SF/peninsula side of the bay who has a mustang with H/C/I and wants the same challenge, my boy has a stock LS1 auto other than Longtubes and gears and he will gladly put you ALL back in your place... Don't mistake me for a "LS" lover, I'm just a realist not a dreamer..
i hope ur not talkin bout the maro my coupe walked on!!
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Dude that 5.0 is not a 5.0 no way bro. It has to have a diff motor.
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Originally posted by SSF 50:
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Originally posted by cali95gt:
Damn this posting has gotten crazy...well JaeJae I wish you the best of luck but to be honest it's not looking to sweet.. Just bring a camera and post up the footage...
For anyone on the SF/peninsula side of the bay who has a mustang with H/C/I and wants the same challenge, my boy has a stock LS1 auto other than Longtubes and gears and he will gladly put you ALL back in your place... Don't mistake me for a "LS" lover, I'm just a realist not a dreamer..
i hope ur not talkin bout the maro my coupe walked on!!
Def not!!, he's just a guy I know and he only had the car for 2 days when you guys raced.. I'm talking about my boy who has a blue one thats an auto.. he knows how to drive that for sure
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Originally posted by Sonic96GT:
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Originally posted by x42bnx:
So let me get this straight.
Auto LS1 With 300 RWHP with a curb weight of 3400 LBS.
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5 SPD H/C/I 5.0 290 RWHP with curb weight of 3100 LB/s.
Sorry, 10 RWHP won't make him win you retards.
We do not know the OP's numbers. OP originally stated he has anywhere from 270-290rwhp. So you can not assume he has 290rwhp. Camaros have a lot of top end aswell. Like I said it'll be a good race. But odds are looking like the camaro. HCI will only get you passed stock to minor bolt on LS1's if that. An other LS1 with HCI requires boost. Blower/Turbo FTW.... Off subject... But I have a friend with just 410's and longtubes on his ls1 and has no problem beating stangs with about 300rwhp-330rwhp.
You guys don't no what your talking about, my mustang has 330 horsepower and and a couple of weeks ago I beat a maro with gears and longtubes by about litterally 8 cars, on camara in case you want to see it, and another one with gears, longtubes, cam, and tune and beat him by 3 cars. I don't know why you and your boys don't just sell your mustangs and get a ls1 already.
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Originally posted by 86- 50:
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Originally posted by Sonic96GT:
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Originally posted by x42bnx:
So let me get this straight.
Auto LS1 With 300 RWHP with a curb weight of 3400 LBS.
Vs
5 SPD H/C/I 5.0 290 RWHP with curb weight of 3100 LB/s.
Sorry, 10 RWHP won't make him win you retards.
We do not know the OP's numbers. OP originally stated he has anywhere from 270-290rwhp. So you can not assume he has 290rwhp. Camaros have a lot of top end aswell. Like I said it'll be a good race. But odds are looking like the camaro. HCI will only get you passed stock to minor bolt on LS1's if that. An other LS1 with HCI requires boost. Blower/Turbo FTW.... Off subject... But I have a friend with just 410's and longtubes on his ls1 and has no problem beating stangs with about 300rwhp-330rwhp.
You guys don't no what your talking about, my mustang has 330 horsepower and and a couple of weeks ago I beat a maro with gears and longtubes by about litterally 8 cars, on camara in case you want to see it, and another one with gears, longtubes, cam, and tune and beat him by 3 cars. I don't know why you and your boys don't just sell your mustangs and get a ls1 already.
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Originally posted by 86- 50:
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Originally posted by Sonic96GT:
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Originally posted by x42bnx:
So let me get this straight.
Auto LS1 With 300 RWHP with a curb weight of 3400 LBS.
Vs
5 SPD H/C/I 5.0 290 RWHP with curb weight of 3100 LB/s.
Sorry, 10 RWHP won't make him win you retards.
We do not know the OP's numbers. OP originally stated he has anywhere from 270-290rwhp. So you can not assume he has 290rwhp. Camaros have a lot of top end aswell. Like I said it'll be a good race. But odds are looking like the camaro. HCI will only get you passed stock to minor bolt on LS1's if that. An other LS1 with HCI requires boost. Blower/Turbo FTW.... Off subject... But I have a friend with just 410's and longtubes on his ls1 and has no problem beating stangs with about 300rwhp-330rwhp.
You guys don't no what your talking about, my mustang has 330 horsepower and and a couple of weeks ago I beat a maro with gears and longtubes by about litterally 8 cars, on camara in case you want to see it, and another one with gears, longtubes, cam, and tune and beat him by 3 cars. I don't know why you and your boys don't just sell your mustangs and get a ls1 already.
Seems like you are another guy here blinded by ford.. You sometimes just have to admit it, LS1's are hard to beat, especially by a H/C/I mustang.. I'm guessing you are running deep 11's maybe high 10's because the cammed LS1's I hang around run mid to high 11's... I find what your saying hard to believe, post /pm me the videos then I'll shut up..
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Originally posted by 86- 50:
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Originally posted by Sonic96GT:
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Originally posted by x42bnx:
So let me get this straight.
Auto LS1 With 300 RWHP with a curb weight of 3400 LBS.
Vs
5 SPD H/C/I 5.0 290 RWHP with curb weight of 3100 LB/s.
Sorry, 10 RWHP won't make him win you retards.
We do not know the OP's numbers. OP originally stated he has anywhere from 270-290rwhp. So you can not assume he has 290rwhp. Camaros have a lot of top end aswell. Like I said it'll be a good race. But odds are looking like the camaro. HCI will only get you passed stock to minor bolt on LS1's if that. An other LS1 with HCI requires boost. Blower/Turbo FTW.... Off subject... But I have a friend with just 410's and longtubes on his ls1 and has no problem beating stangs with about 300rwhp-330rwhp.
You guys don't no what your talking about, my mustang has 330 horsepower and and a couple of weeks ago I beat a maro with gears and longtubes by about litterally 8 cars, on camara in case you want to see it, and another one with gears, longtubes, cam, and tune and beat him by 3 cars. I don't know why you and your boys don't just sell your mustangs and get a ls1 already.
I am sure 99% of the people here want the stang to win! Problem is He has'nt been on the dyno or to the track & let's face it edelbrock's are a step up from His iron headed 40's. If He get's out front He will have a shot "drag radial's ftw" but the odd's of Him chasing the maro down are low.
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