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wilit
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Too bad the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 protects consumers from having their warranty voided with the addition of aftermarket parts. Unless the company can show the part CAUSED the problem, Ford can pound sand.
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"If a man hasn't found something worth dying for, he isn't fit to live." - Martin Luther King Jr.
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SwEeT03Gt
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Originally posted by wilit:
Too bad the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 protects consumers from having their warranty voided with the addition of aftermarket parts. Unless the company can show the part CAUSED the problem, Ford can pound sand.
amen ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif) my favorite act lol, n they try to say buying ford racing part wouuld void warrenty, not if its installed by ford lol ![[Whoo Whooooo!]](graemlins/woowoo.gif)
Posts: 4484 | From: -NicKlE n DiMe- | Registered: Sep 2010
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BIGBALLFACTOR
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It is really to get warrantys voided
Posts: 6908 | From: okc | Registered: Dec 2006
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copcar
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I don't see a problem with the TSB. I see a problem with inept tunes and tuners.
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STEED
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Originally posted by copcar:
I don't see a problem with the TSB. I see a problem with inept tunes and tuners.
Correct in some ways...i've got a brand new 2012 5.0 here in the shop with 6k on the odo, and it had a cold air intake and tune done by a reputable shop.....only to now have #8 cylinder go by by.
Doesnt even have plates yet.
Ford told him no warranty....and tuner said not his issue.
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Jason McCallum
TPS Motorsports GM
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Posts: 892 | From: Cambell, CA | Registered: Aug 2004
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Gnari-Garage
CAFords OG
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is this something new? I think it has always been that if you modify your car, your warranty expires.
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Posts: 4017 | From: 916-sacramento | Registered: Aug 2003
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JBeezy53
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Originally posted by STEED:
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Originally posted by copcar:
I don't see a problem with the TSB. I see a problem with inept tunes and tuners.
Correct in some ways...i've got a brand new 2012 5.0 here in the shop with 6k on the odo, and it had a cold air intake and tune done by a reputable shop.....only to now have #8 cylinder go by by.
Doesnt even have plates yet.
Ford told him no warranty....and tuner said not his issue.
That makes sense to me since they modified the computer settings. I would have taken it to Ford with the factory tune in place and would have even taken the cold air kit off.
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Posts: 1782 | From: Sacramento, Ca | Registered: Jan 2004
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iceman302
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Originally posted by JBeezy53:
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Originally posted by STEED:
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Originally posted by copcar:
I don't see a problem with the TSB. I see a problem with inept tunes and tuners.
Correct in some ways...i've got a brand new 2012 5.0 here in the shop with 6k on the odo, and it had a cold air intake and tune done by a reputable shop.....only to now have #8 cylinder go by by.
Doesnt even have plates yet.
Ford told him no warranty....and tuner said not his issue.
That makes sense to me since they modified the computer settings. I would have taken it to Ford with the factory tune in place and would have even taken the cold air kit off.
They can tell whether or not a tune was installed on the car.
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Posts: 4171 | From: Rancho Murieta | Registered: Oct 2006
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BIGBALLFACTOR
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Originally posted by iceman302:
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Originally posted by JBeezy53:
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Originally posted by STEED:
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Originally posted by copcar:
I don't see a problem with the TSB. I see a problem with inept tunes and tuners.
Correct in some ways...i've got a brand new 2012 5.0 here in the shop with 6k on the odo, and it had a cold air intake and tune done by a reputable shop.....only to now have #8 cylinder go by by.
Doesnt even have plates yet.
Ford told him no warranty....and tuner said not his issue.
That makes sense to me since they modified the computer settings. I would have taken it to Ford with the factory tune in place and would have even taken the cold air kit off.
They can tell whether or not a tune was installed on the car.
There a part of the pcm that tuners can touch that gets tripped when tuners fuck with the pcm
Posts: 6908 | From: okc | Registered: Dec 2006
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98 ROUSH
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Gotta pay to play. Shouldn't fuck with a car with warranty if you scared it might fuck up especially after reading what people are going thru with the number 8 cylinder
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Posts: 4679 | From: North Hayward, Cali | Registered: Sep 2010
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Mr.Lucky
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Originally posted by wilit:
Too bad the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 protects consumers from having their warranty voided with the addition of aftermarket parts. Unless the company can show the part CAUSED the problem, Ford can pound sand.
Interesting article I found that contradicts that.
http://www.speedsportlife.com/2011/07/07/dont-panic-the-warranty-voiding-tsb-really-isnt-that-big-of-a-deal/
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Posts: 4197 | From: Manteca | Registered: Sep 2002
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STEED
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this is true.
Car was taken to dealer with stock tune flashed back in and OEM airbox put back on.
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Jason McCallum
TPS Motorsports GM
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89LX: Built, Stroked, & Blown
07GT: Blown
www.TPSmotorsports.com
408-370-1477
Posts: 892 | From: Cambell, CA | Registered: Aug 2004
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v-town coupe
fordologist
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Originally posted by STEED:
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Originally posted by copcar:
I don't see a problem with the TSB. I see a problem with inept tunes and tuners.
Correct in some ways...i've got a brand new 2012 5.0 here in the shop with 6k on the odo, and it had a cold air intake and tune done by a reputable shop.....only to now have #8 cylinder go by by.
Doesnt even have plates yet.
Ford told him no warranty....and tuner said not his issue.
so Are you guys doing a rebuild for him? or replacing the short block,etc?
Posts: 4597 | From: the V-town | Registered: May 2003
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Adam5.0
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Originally posted by wilit:
Too bad the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 protects consumers from having their warranty voided with the addition of aftermarket parts. Unless the company can show the part CAUSED the problem, Ford can pound sand.
this only applies to replacement parts such as direct replace stuff like air filter, oil filter, oxygen sensors etc... not modifications like bigger throttle bodies, cams stuff like that
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Posts: 1609 | From: Brentwood | Registered: Aug 2006
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If you can't afford to fix your car out of pocket you shouldn't be modding it, plain and simple! I don't blame Ford for not warranting repairs done to modified cars, if it was left stock most likely the car wouldn't have failed.
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Posts: 2124 | From: Chico, Ca | Registered: Aug 2006
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if i were to get one only thing i'd mess with is suspension n tires thats it ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
Posts: 4484 | From: -NicKlE n DiMe- | Registered: Sep 2010
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iceman302
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Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
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Originally posted by wilit:
Too bad the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 protects consumers from having their warranty voided with the addition of aftermarket parts. Unless the company can show the part CAUSED the problem, Ford can pound sand.
Interesting article I found that contradicts that.
http://www.speedsportlife.com/2011/07/07/dont-panic-the-warranty-voiding-tsb-really-isnt-that-big-of-a-deal/
This is exactly why I'm leaning towards the Ford Racing Pro Cal and matching CAI. It fully maintains the factory warranty.
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Posts: 4171 | From: Rancho Murieta | Registered: Oct 2006
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Poisond Pony
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Originally posted by STEED:
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Originally posted by copcar:
I don't see a problem with the TSB. I see a problem with inept tunes and tuners.
Correct in some ways...i've got a brand new 2012 5.0 here in the shop with 6k on the odo, and it had a cold air intake and tune done by a reputable shop.....only to now have #8 cylinder go by by.
Doesnt even have plates yet.
Ford told him no warranty....and tuner said not his issue.
sounds like the one I just voided warranty on. Is it black with Colorado temp plates?
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copcar
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Keep this in mind; when developing the tune profiles for the new engine (both stock and the upgrade) ford had the following information on hand.
1) EGT for each cylinder
2) AFR for each cylinder
3) Multiple fuel grades and qualities (summer/winter blend etc..)
4)Controlled maximum load per tps voltage idle to redline
5)Controlled environment perameters. 130* to -25* F
and most importantly
6)Multiple engines to test and tear down to analyze.
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